Nov 272015
 

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>> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT.

SO YOU WROTE THAT I HAD NO DOUBT THAT SUPPORT FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE WAS HIS HEARTFELT BELIEF BUT BECAUSE OF THE POLITICS, HE OPPOSED IT WHILE BEING HUMANE TALKING ABOUT CIVIL UNIONS AND THE REST.

THE PRESIDENT TELLING BUZZFEED IN A NEW INTERVIEW QUOTE, I THINK THE NOTION THAT SOMEHOW I WAS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF MARRIAGE PER SE FOR SAME SEX COUPLES ISN'T QUITE ACCURATE.

DID YOU GET IT WRONG, IS HE TRYING TO FUZZ IT A LITTLE? >> IF YOU GO ON IN THAT INTERVIEW, WHAT HE SAID WAS I HAVE MY PERSONAL VIEW AND THEN I HAD MY PUBLIC POSITION.

>> WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.

>> EXACTLY.

>> HE WASN'T REALLY DISPUTING IT.

>> NO.

HE WAS FRUSTRATED, HE SAID HE WAS FRUSTRATED BUT UNDERSTOOD THAT THE MARKET, WHAT THE MARKET WOULD BEAR.

MY POINT IS THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON IN HISTORY.

GREAT LEADERS OFTEN WORK IN THAT WAY.

HE HAD A GOAL AND HE WORKED HIS WAY TO THAT GOAL AND MOST PEOPLE I THINK IN THE GAY AND LESBIAN COMMUNITY WOULD SAY THERE HASN'T BEEN A PRESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN MORE ACCOMPLISHED IN TERMS OF BREAKING DOWN THESE BARRIERS.

SO I THINK HE FOUND HIS WAY THERE.

>> SURE.

SOMETHING ELSE YOU WROTE THAT I FOUND FASCINATING, BECAUSE HE DOES SEEM SO COOL AND ALOOF AND DISDAINFUL OF WASHINGTON, DISDAINFUL OF THE MEDIA IN A LOT OF RESPECTS.

YOU WRITE — >> EXCEPT YOU.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

YOU WROTE, IT'S ABOUT A 2006 MEMO YOU SENT TO THEN SENATOR OBAMA IN PREPARING FOR HIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE, YOU WERE WORRIED HE COULDN'T TAKE A PUNCH.

YOU SAID YOU CARE FAR TOO MUCH WHAT IS WRITTEN AND SAID ABOUT YOU, YOU DON'T RELISH THE COMBAT WHEN IT BECOMES PERSONAL AND NASTY, WHEN THE LARGELY IRRELEVANT ALAN KEYES, HIS OPPONENT IN THE SENATE RACE, ATTACKED YOU, YOU FLINCHED.

DO YOU THINK HE STILL HAS THAT PROBLEM? >> I THINK CAMPAIGNS ARE PROVING GROUNDS.

HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE LONGEST AND TOUGHEST NOMINATING FIGHT IN HISTORY AGAINST A VERY FORMIDABLE OPPONENT AND I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HIM.

I THINK HE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HIMSELF.

HE TOOK A LOT OF PUNCHES AND KEPT ON GOING.

WHAT I LEARNED ABOUT HIM WAS THAT WHEN THOSE PUNCHES CAME AND WHEN WE HAD DOWNTURNS, HE WAS AS RESILIENT AS ANYBODY.

>> HE LEARNED TO BLOW IT OFF? >> HE WAS CALM AND FOCUSED AND PUSHING US FORWARD WHEN THINGS WENT BADLY AND THAT WAS A GREAT.

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